I have more “FAKE CRYSTALS” updates for us today.
The artificial mineral market is continuing to grow and it seems there’s a “gap” in good reliable info on this sort of thing in general.
I get really super-duper passionate about getting this info out there and I feel I’m in a very unique position to do just that, being a former science department chair, having studied geology at the Masters level, and being a Crystal Energy Teacher with a pretty large platform gives me a great advantage… so how could I NOT heed the call?
I’m so honored to be able to serve in this way + grateful for being given the opportunity to do so!
I really want to educate our community on what’s available out there so we can make really informed decisions when adding specimens to our sacred collections. If you feel passionate about this too, please share this post in any way you prefer. (There are some handy-dandy “SHARE” buttons you can use at the bottom). 😉
Vibrant Pink Tourmaline
Mostly, I’ve seen these at the most recent Tucson Gem Shows or popping up on eBay from the Middle East.
The color really pops so it really catches your eye! Not to say that pink tourmaline of this color doesn’t exist in nature. It so totally does!
BUT I can tell these in the below photo are FAKES.
HOW can I tell?
Well, let me tell you… because I want you to be informed and be able to catch this shiz too.
No more duping us!
Now, it is HARD to pick out the fake pink tourmalines, but this one made it all too easy. It was coupled with an easily identified irradiated smokey quartz. Dead give away!
See the dark six-sided points up there? Yep, that’s quartz and, as you can see, it looks like black quartz, Morion quartz even… BUT ITS NOT!
The above quartz is clearly artificially irradiated quartz.
And since the pink color of the tourmaline + the black of the quartz is so strong, I’m going to assume that this specimen (and others like it) would be considered “HOT”; meaning that it could still be giving off significant amounts of radiation!!
Another tell-tale sign would be that the color fades over time and very quickly when exposed to sunlight. Of course, you’d have to own the piece for a bit of time to catch that though.
Opalite
This stuff is often mistaken for (and deliberately meant to be passed off as) moonstone because of its luminous blue-ish glow.
But it ain’t nothin’ more than manmade glass (or sometimes even plastic!) 🙁
It’s usually flawless with no inclusions and blue-ish clear or milky colored. You may sometimes see little air bubbles from the synthetic manufacturing process or even scratches on the surface.
Just know… it has NOTHING to do with real authentic opal.
Fake Ajoite + Papagoite!!!
I’ve lumped these two together because they’re very closely related. Now, originally ajoite was named after a blue mass of color found in rocks in Ajo, Arizona. Perhaps this should more accurately be named “ajoite included quartz”, but it’s not.
Here’s the thing: amongst serious rock hounds and collectors, if you’re gonna tell someone you’ve got an “ajoite” specimen, it had better be that the ajoite inclusion (of s a copper-derived hydrated sodium potassium copper aluminum silicate hydroxide mineral, if you want to get geeky with it!) is indeed included within the relatively high-quality quartz crystal specimen (They’ll be expecting that the ajoite or papagoite is included within a natural quartz point.). This also helps to avoid confusion.
Here’s an official geology page on mindat.org to help explain what you should be looking for.
This one really has me fired up + ticked off today because I was recently selling two pieces of ajoite from my private collection. So, in the process of that, it gave me the opportunity to have my nose shoved into this new fake situation that’s reared its UGLY head: FAKE AJOITE + PAPAGOITE! No duping us with FAKES!!!!
Why was I so triggered by this? Probably because I have such a love affair with ajoite most especially. I’ve now realized I’m really protective of it.
Both ajoite and papagoite are extremely rare and expensive —
when they’re genuine.
I first became alerted to this issue recently when someone told me on one of my FB livestreams that they’d just purchased a papagoite necklace of beads for a reasonable price. Wha?
*Ding, ding, ding!!* Red flag up!
Here’s the crux of the matter: Papagoite and ajoite do not come in polished beads… if they do then they are not the real deal. If they are in a quartz mass or tumbled quartz stone of any sort — then it’s most likely some form of chrysocolla. Some of these fakes are simply low-grade chrysocolla masses or tumbled stones. Think about it; if you had authentic, ajoite or papagoite, why would you cut and polish it into a beaded lowering its economic value EXPONENTIALLY?
If it’s a fake quartz point being touted as “ajoite” with an off-greenish-color it’s most likely fake chlorite lab-grown quartz or, sadly, even dye injections we’ve been seeing as of late! Yuck.
![Ajoite. Rob Lavinsky, iRocks.com – CC-BY-SA-3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons](https://hibiscusmoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ajoite-Quartz-tmu47c.jpg)
Ajoite. Rob Lavinsky, iRocks.com – CC-BY-SA-3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons
Here’s a grouping of some of my AUTHENTIC ajoite collection in the above photo:
- The four points on the top are indeed the real thing.
- The two stones on the bottom are chrysocolla-included rocks.
If it has more of a green hue...
sorry, but it’s not the real deal. Match yours up with the photos above. Not quite right? A bit off? Then it’s NOT ajoite.
ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT TIP!: The blue inclusions are usually somewhere between the apex + midway up the shaft… not near the base of the crystal point. I’ve seen many of the fakes with the fake color gathered somewhere between the mid-shaft & the base. In authentic ajoite & papagoite, somehow the blue inclusions like to rise to the top of the apexes (apices) and even very often form phantoms!
Someone was trying to pass this (below) off as ajoite. Puh-leeeeez! You can see the difference now, right?
Same with papagoite; also a very specific vibrant color sky blue (bordering on Royal Blue) embedded in a natural quartz point.
![Papagoite. Rob Lavinsky, iRocks.com – CC-BY-SA-3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons](https://hibiscusmoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Papagoite-Quartz-tmu53e.jpg)
Papagoite. Rob Lavinsky, iRocks.com – CC-BY-SA-3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons
Ajoite Tips to REMEMBER:
- Look for the green hue. Greenish? Not the real thing.
- Does it look like most other REAL ajoite and papagoite specimens you’ve studied before?
- Is it a naturally included quartz point?
- Where is the color saturation gathered in the specimen?
- Is your seller trusted + knowledgeable about the mineralogy (not just the metaphysics)?
- Then use price point as your next indicator
Why so rare?
Although ajoite and papagoite microcrystals were originally discovered in Ajo, Arizona the highly coveted quartz-included points only come from the Messina Copper Mine in South Africa, which stopped production and closed in 1992. 🙁
The expensive price of ajoite & papagoite reflects the extremely high demand and low supply.
Basic economics.
Sellers of authentic ajoite and papagoite know what they have & fully understand their worth.
Some of these sellers may know full well they’re passing off fakes, but others may have no idea. So, I feel it’s up to our Crystal Family to inform such sellers so they can know in the future and pay it forward by educating their customers. ♥
Use your common sense here. If it’s too good to be true, then yeah, it probably is.
Yes, I’m VERY passionate about this.
If you choose to work with man-made minerals (fake crystals) and you enjoy them just fine or it’s been working for you, I always say “keep on ‘truckin'”. Don’t change a thing!
I just want us all to have the knowledge first and then you can make an informed decision regarding how you choose to use these “stones”. And as always, the moral of the story here is… Buyer Beware. Who are you buying from? Are they reputable? Do they know what they’re talking about? Are you doing your own homework? The best way to protect yourself is through education.
Do you have any fake-out stories to tell? Please post in the comments below and help us all out!
Crystal Blessings,
So will opalite have no metaphysical or healing properties ?!
I can only tell you what I prefer & get the best results from & that is Mother Earth Created only. 🙂
So Opalite isn’t a legit stone period?
Opalite is a trade name for man-made opalescent glass, however, there is natural Opalite that shares the same basic chemical properties as opal.
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Sage Goddess sagegoddess.com … stay away from this site. Sent nephrite jade and its black? Sent chipped stone as well. Lovely No Refunds, No Returns. Not to mention the OUTRAGEOUS shipping charge of $20 for 10 small stones that was shipped 8 days after I ordered. For a $20 shipping charge you’d expect 5 star service Nope
Stephanie, Sage Goddess (Athena) is the worst! I ordered a gem exiler water bottle from them ($80) and after the fact, I wanted to know what the liquid was made up with in the Crystal Pod attached to the bottom of the water bottle. NO ONE there could tell me. The Swiss manufacturer never answered my repeated emails. I said based upon the fact that I cannot find out what the contents of the Crystal Pod were, I wanted to return it for a refund. They said no. I said well how about for store credit? Again, no. Stay far away from these people!
This woman is a charlatan-hawking overpriced junk. I was booted off of all her pages when I was explaining the geological makeup of crystal and how they do not grow after being mined…and YES, she has left her followers to believe that crystals (quartz, herkimers etc) continue to grow after you take them home! So many people swearing up and down that their quartz has sprouted! OMG
Christ. Open you’re mind. WOW..
Yes know that one, Sage Goddess is not a good one, overpriced and I have noticed on her site some of the crystals she sells are not real, or some she says are this and that but are not those correct crystals/names, etc. Plus the citrine she sells is actually baked amethyst.
Ugh. I just received my order from Sage Goddess yesterday and was so upset with the crystals she sent. The sad thing is that some of the crystals I ordered have properties to help with relaxation but when I opened my order I became so agitated and irritated. I couldn’t seem to get over the negativity until I saged myself. First and last time I buy online. Unfortunately there aren’t any crystal shops or metaphysical bookstores near where I live.
I order from Crystal Vibes and am always so happy with what I receive and so positive. Sorry you had a bad experience. I have had a few myself.
Ive never purchased anything from them, but a friend swears bu sage goddess. Ive tried to tell her, but….
If you’re attracted to opalite but want a natural but visually very similar alternative, try girasol quartz. It’s basically an opalized (aka water included) quartz that has a really pretty blue or gold glow to it. From what I understand, it grows alongside rose quartz, so some pieces can be pale pink as well as white. I really really love girasol, and it’s pretty affordable. It goes by a LOT of names though, so it can be confusing…it can be called blue opal quartz, white star quartz, moon quartz, and quite a few others. I know it’s mined in Madagascar, though I’m not sure if it’s found elsewhere too. Hope this helps! I was duped by opalite too, and I was pretty disappointed when I found out it was man-made, but my favorite crystal supplier (shout out to Asherah’s Garden in Bowling Green, OH) turned me on to girasol and I’ve been really happy with the results.
Does Amathyst always come in a sea cluster (shark teeth) form? I have a few that are rough to the touch, a little brown color rock like look???
Can u show or explain the diff between an ajoite and dumetiorite idk if i spelled that right..ty
Is tumbled ajoite in chrysocolla considered to be fake? Thanks so much!! xo
Mary, as I stated in this post ajoite must be a crystal point. If it’s tumbled then it’s chrysocolla, not ajoite. People like throwing the ajoite name around b/c it fetches a higher price point.
Wow, thank you for this. I purchased a tumbled piece from Sage Goddess in August of 2014- The listing was ” Rare Tumbled Ajote in chrysocolla” and I had it wire wrapped and cost me $35. I am shocked and beside myself.
It is against the law to sell fake anything, never mind fake stones. If it’s done mistakenly, then the merchant should make it right by refunding the purchase price. You have to stand up for yourself. Let them know you would like to resolve this amicably. Next step would be to contact your card company for a chargeback, if you used a card. **I’m not an attorney, but I am in this business and have NO patience for fake stones in the marketplace.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Fake anything pisses me off. Especially people!
Ive been that way since I was a baby my Mom has told me (laughing) many times. She just came through in a mediumship reading she said “Truth is in the eye of the beholder “.
Namaskar
Hello! How do you tell if a black tourmaline DT is fake or not?
Where are the most reputable sites to purchase crystals online?
Thank you. I am about to buy a necklace – Ajoite with Papagoite in Quartz Facetted Bead from S. Africa – 13 Carats – 0.7″ – its from a company in Canada that my local lady who makes my earrings recommends, but they are definitely beads. and a couple of hundred $. I really don’t mean to sound disrespectful but are you sure that the only Ajoite with Papagoite in Quartz is a Point?
You can check it out with a geologist. If you think about it…why would anyone take true ajoite & polish it down into a bead reducing its value exponentially. What it likely is is the color found in ajoite or papagoite produced by copper-bearing minerals like chrysocolla in quartz (its the same exact chemical component). Technically, this is not known as ajoite or papagoite. Only the points are.
This is false information, the mineral inclusion in the quartz is Papagoite (blue) or Ajoite (teal). Some of these crystals are found broken or not the best quality to be sold as points and can be made into beads. Anyone with lapidary equipment can make almost any stone into a bead and do. However I have also witnessed a form of chalcedony and chrysocolla being sold as Ajoite. It is good to inform people of the truth. I have cut rough ajoite and can drill it into beads, I have bought Ajoite that is clearly Ajoite in rough shape (tip broken) That could be made into wonderful beads. I hope you update your info to fully reflect truth. There are also beautiful cabs available in Ajoite and Papagoite. Most times the inclusions are found in translucent quartz, but also can be found in Smoky Quartz. Hope this helps. Love and Bless
Ariel I did wonder the same, and thank you for that. That is valuable to know. I got mine from Innervision crystals who have sold genuine crystals especially moldavite from real sources and I should know this as the moldavite I bought (raw) makes me dizzy when I hold it every time, as I don’t always have it on me. I got an ajoite from them recently, which is very very super clear quartz with blue ajoite in one area, small bit of it, looks feathery and it is as a cabachon, so I am relieved to read your comment and to know that it is possible for ajoite in points to be made into cabachones. Mine is in a pendant, very tiny one about 12mm (1.2 cm).
Thank you for clearing that up. I have seen rough pieces of Ajoite that did not have points. I took it some place that test minerals and they told me that it was Ajoite.
Hi HM, I want to check, can these ajoite in quartz points be cut and made into cabachons? I have one very clear quartz with a feathery blue inclusion that is ajoite as a small cabachon in a necklace pendant. So it is possible to have that with ajoite? I know I have seen many sellers sell chryscolla as ajoite and have to shake my head. Anything that has opaque mass is chryscolla, that is true.
For some strange reason the pictures are not showing up. I’ve never had this problem with your posts before. 🙁
Annette, can you please email us over at techsupport@hibiscusmoon.com please so we can figure out what might be happening for you?
Just sent the email to tech support. Thanks!
Great info before the TGS! Thank you HM.!!
Have FUN!
When I was a newbie I was suckered by “blue obsidian,” which was just glass. I was kind of annoyed because I bought it at my favorite mineral shop that I trusted… If I was the proprietor of a mineral shop, I would never sell such an item without a disclaimer, just sayin’.
Catherine, many times the sellers don’t know themselves.
And many times the sellers DO know, but just don’t care. There is a women who owns a crystal shop in my area who is an Advanced Crystal Master graduate of your course, Hibiscus Moon, and she tried selling me “blue obsidian” along with “amber” (which was $9 a piece). I just laughed at her, and said it’s most likely copal, and there is no such thing as “blue obsidian,” it’s glass lady. What I felt like saying is “shame, shame, Hibiscus would not be too happy with you.”
So yes, some sellers DO know, but just don’t care. They see $$$$$ and all moral sense goes out the window. Crystal fakes being sold as the real deal, disgusts me too!
I’m so glad you’ve enlightened us with your crystal expertise! I saw some recently and it saddens me that it’s being sold as ajoite. I even bought a tumbled chrysocolla w/ ajoite from that shop a year ago and I’m glad this clears things up, as my gut felt unsure that it was truly ajoite in there. Knowledge is power and I thank you for keeping us in the know!
I’m glad somebody else noticed what is up with the “Sage Goddess.” She is over-the-top sensational when it comes to selling crystals.
Check out her “rare” Bismuth metalloid specimen for $6.50.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/234436609/bismuth-metalloid-specimen-harnessed?ref=shop_home_active_1&ga_search_query=bismuth
I quote from the above link: “You’re looking at something really special. Bismuth is a POWERFUL crystalline metal….The structure is natural and rare in nature. In fact you will not see this molecular structure elsewhere on the planet. I revel in bringing you rare offerings, and this is one to behold. Please note: Bismuth is EXPENSIVE. This price is almost a wholesale price because I want to make this metal accessible, but I had to scour the Earth to find it!”
LOL! You know why you won’t see this molecular structure elsewhere on the planet? Because the planet don’t make it, baby! It’s fake! This stuff burns me up.
We all know that Hibiscus Moon graciously informed us that the iridescent bismuth crystals are fake, fake, fake. Hibiscus says: “rainbow-colored crystallized Bismuth like that DOES NOT occur in nature. These Pretty-Babies are lab-grown (usually in Germany). They take liquid bismuth & super-cool it until it crystallizes.”
https://hibiscusmoon.com/crystal-fakes-7/
Back in 2011, I took Hibiscus’ course, but was two classes shy of graduating and did not finish because I got pregnant. But I can tell you folks that Hibiscus is one of the most honest gals in the crystal biz. If she says it’s fake, then it’s fake. Period.
Just trying to make others aware of the fakes too.
Let me tell you about that mess over there….I purchased a few stones, some polished, some raw, and some that came from “Tuscon gem show” . When I received my order, no slip was enclosed to tell me what I ordered? And only 3 little cards out of the 5 stones I purchased, that described what the stone was and the purpose? Why not send all 5? I was very disappointed with the quality and sent an email, which takes 2 days for someone to even respond to you. Well, that was worse. It was impossible to get a refund. You are forced to get a credit ONLY.
With all the hipe over there, whew! Let that all be, and thank goodness we have a real, authentic, professional, and honest person here!
Just make sure you all do your homework and if you are unsure, ask!
Sage Goddess is NOT fake. Maybe you should educate yourself a little more…
Most of the stones are FAKE – Not to give bad news, yet it is true! I am sorry!
I’ve purchased from Sage Goddess several times and all of their items were authentic except for a pair of Ajoite. Otherwise, I’ve been pleased with their products as well as their customer service.
She send me more than 1 fake gemstone. Sadly, I didnt learn the first time. Or the second…
I was so excited to buy two Ajoite point but I was quite disappointed when they finally arrived. It was more than obvious to me that they were Fuchsite. I contacted SG and the owner assured me that it was a RARE teal green Ajoite. I honestly felt scammed then wondered whether one of her sources gave her misinformation? I don’t know who to blame or what to believe
Followed the link and the crystals listed look more like fluorite. SMH
In case you are there to buy quartz, and you fear of being fooled with a normal glass, you can easily identify it. Being an amorphous, glass molecules didn’t have time to arrange in a proper crystalline geometric pattern which differentiate it from quartz. The reason being quartz cools slowly and do possess a geometrically perfect molecular structure. While glass will often have tiny air bubbles, this would be missing in quartz.
I have an ametrine crystal point I love.
It is about 3″ high x 2″ at widest part tapered to 1″ at base ( in USA imperial) and is a deep purple with brown in the centre. When I bought it the crystal was fairly opaque – I didn’t mind because I thought the colours were and still are, beautiful.
This crystal has not faded so much as become clearer. It now has many mirrored surfaces inside where it used to be cloudy.
I have been careful not to leave it on direct sunlight. I am not sure what to think. The colour has not faded, just become clearer.
Thank you
I have had crystals that changed in appearance over a long period – more than ten years. One, an expensive giant citrine point showed suddenly covered all over a very large face with small raised triangular points as I was paying for it. I had not seen them before that and the assistant had not seen them previously. It remained so for many years sitting upon my piano but recently, I noticed that they have all disappeared except for a few small patches. I also have a fair sized Tibetan cluster and one of the double terminated crystals with a bluish tint, had a lovely snowy inclusion. This inclusion has grown considerably over the years and has formed a distinctive point of its own. These beautiful crystals are so alive.
My best novice idea towards it becoming clearer in time would be that part of the crystal was milky quartz. Milky quartz contains inclusions of unsolidified quartz that gives it’s signature appearance and as time passed, they had “dried” up resulting in the clarity.
Thank you for the great article !!!
That was great information. Who knew??? The Ajoite and Papagoite are absolutely beautiful.
H.M.
Wondering what your thoughts are regarding Andara “crystals.”
Thanks in advance
Michele
With the world of crystals and its healing powers being more exposed to the world there comes high demand. In order to meet demands we get fakes. And then we start to find perfect quartz with wholes in them to accommodate a candle and it kills me!! Sad sad sad. 🙁
I saw a ‘super 7’ tumblechip bracelet for £3 yesterday (about 5 dollars). Warning signs straight away. It’s too cheap!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. I have some fakes in my growing collection–some I knew were not real “earth formed” crystals when I bought them ( goldstone and those really pretty glass spheres in a variety of colors sold on Ebay by Chinese distributors as “rare purple, blue , green, etc. quartz” which you can pick up for $1 if lucky. I buy them for decoration because they are very appealing to my eye! ) and I was actually duped on a couple–maybe more.
A friend and I have been in contact with Sage “goddess” and after being ignored my friend (who is a legitimate geologist, degree and experience and passion included) told them we would report to the BBB. They finally changed a couple of the big “mistaken” listings. Glad to see some others are aware too.
Taking advantage is horrible enough but then overpricing and being deceptive about things that people use for healing and energy? I just couldn’t wait for Karma on this one.
To Empressa
Had same issue and told them on the phone and via email they needed to change the verbiage on a few items since it was not correct. And the pricing is outrageous. They have Kammererite Slabs for $90 I never heard of them? I looked them up, yet do not know enough about them?
So grateful for this article and will always be a customer here forever and ever. Even the members are nicer here.
I’ve purchased several items from Sage Goddess. I’ve had good experience with customer service, however, I have a couple of items that were listed incorrectly (one as amber , but is actually reconstituted amber) and the other is orange obsidian (which wasn’t expensive at all which seems too good to be true as it is EXTREMELY rare and costly.)
I purchased BOTH because I liked the items. I’m not sure why the description was inaccurate.
Ordered Flourite generator point from a dealer on Amazon. Picture looked great. Reviews were great. When received, it was slag glass. Posted a genuine review warning on the dealer’s review. First and last time ordering online. Besides, I do like feeling the vibrations in person before I buy. ?
Sometimes amythysts are heat treated to create citrine. If the crystal became clearer then, maybe it was heat treated and that may be why it’s becoming clearer. I am not sure if that could be why. I know that if citrine is brown or amber colored , that it is heat treated amythyst .
Im too poor to collect real so I’m guessing because I go for cheaper price that all I got is fake rocks. Im done trying.
I was duped by Opalite. I was in Denver ( hours away) and my boys wanted to leave the store. So instead of taking my time I hurried and then realized my mistake when I got back to Minnesota and saw the air bubbles. Ugh…not a happy camper. But…I send them with the boys to school as worry stones/stress relievers anyway. They fit better in a pocket than a stress ball. 🙂
How can you tell if amethyst is real? Where do you suggest buying authentic crystals
Hibiscus,
I am afraid that you are incorrect in your statement that ajoite only occurs in clear quartz crystal points. Or that it cannot come in bead form. Ajoite from the New Cornelia Mine in Ajo, Arizona (which is where the name ajoite is derived from) usually occurs there as a thin sheet on a matrix. However, ajoite can and does occur in massive form. I personally own a 4 ounce piece of solid ajoite with shattuckite inclusions purchased from a mine manager at the New Cornelia copper mine. I also have 2 small cabochons of ajoite purchased from him.The mine has been closed for many years. Be happy to provide you with photos if you doubt the veracity of what I am saying. I do applaud you in trying to educate folks on the scam ajoite being sold on Ebay and elsewhere. Most ajoite being sold is a scam whether from Ebay or new age dealers.
Best regards
Yes!. Ajoite does come in formations other than a quartz point phantom. You just have to look at the Mindat.org site.
Trina – I know its been a few months so I hope you see this. Don’t give up! I’m broke too, and actually I’m a stone beginner who reads a lot, but some of the best stones are common enough to be cheap. I’ve gotten a lot of benefit out of hematite, and I just happened across some agate beads I had from a few years back that I just strung up. Read up on more real vs fake, and you’ll start to see common themes of certain things that they don’t BOTHER to imitate because there’s no point.
Hello
Surprised to see my picture attached to the Google map picture . Please remove this image has it is seenot associated with fake crystals.
Thank you for your quick response
Sherry Schemer man
what about an Ajoite, Shattuckite, Chrysocolla in quartz Tumbled stone?
is it not possible to tumble a point with an ajoite inclusion?
I’m confused as to why if ajoite is only found in Messina, why is it named after Ajo Arizona?
She is describing specifically ajoite included quartz
I am a graduate of The Hibiscus Moon Crystal Academy. I have an Etsy shop where I sell crystals & make it my mission to not sell overpriced or fake stones. Please know that there are shops out there that still have integrity. I want to be able to provide these beautiful to everyone.
I bought a lot of Ajoite, Shattuckacite, etc. from a miner the worked at the mine. Much was from his boss who took it out in the fifties. I am preparing for the Sedona Gem show and decided to sell items I never would and research shows only Ajoite in crystals. I am confused and frustrated because there was lot of material like my green slabs called Ajoite before it was discovered in Africa. Even the mine only shows the crystal type.
I took pics, but see no way to send to you. The show is the 21/22 this month and if you can advise me before then it would be great.
Thanks in advance, Robert
Hello
My birthstone is black toulumine and I was wondering if I can wear it with the Apache tear (black obsidian)
Please advice
Thanks
Hi, I came across “blue onyx” today and iy seems a little TOO blue to be real. Is blue onyx naturally occurring or is this just dyed quartz or dyed agate?
I’m a newsletter subscriber and LOVE the ‘how to spot a fake” ebook! Thank you so much!
Sage Goddess absolutely sells fakes. I bought an opal aura Quartz heart, not knowing any better. But I loved the way it looked, so I purchased it for over $20. As I know have learned how to tell clear Quartz from glass, I left a poor review and called her out as selling fakes. So disappointing that people are making money on the backs of lies. I won’t be purchasing anything from her again. For me, it’s been difficult finding a legitimate source for crystals. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
yup, yup yup… just posted something about this.
Here’s a place you may need to be careful with it is called the Apollo box. I don’t know if this is a reliable source, but here is a good website but I think you guys might be able look at. It is Crystalvaults.com
I have repeated Google’s sage goddess “handmade ” jewelry and items and found them mass produced in wholesale sites. I trust no-one when buying stone or crystals these days. ???? she has a PhD but it doesn’t mean she’s the leading authority plus her ex employees say she’s a fraud
Funny, I use to sell the same jewelry she sells when I first started. I actually produced/created it and China copied me and mass produced it back in 2013, and sold it thru Aliexpress. I fought with them for a year, but it is impossible to win with China, so I gave up. They still to this date do it to me when I make something unique, including my no-kill smudge feathers, which they’ve tried several times to copy me with no success (happy dance). Sad think is that etsy made “me” remove my items from the shop saying I did not make them, even though I had all the proof needed to show them I was the original creator of the jewelry peace. I am in the process of closing shop with etsy do to this problem and discrimination, and so are other 16 metaphysical shops. Many have questioned her shop due to the same question you have. She shops at Aliexpress.
I know this is off topic and a couple years after you made this comment but I’m vegan and I have been looking everywhere for a no kill smudge feather. Where can I see one of yours??? Do you still sell them???
Now I see a lot of “genuine” clear ponits with embedded roses? how is that even possible? I don’t get how people fall for this?
I would love to send you a photo. I was told these are being sold as genuine crystals and it really upsets me people will believe that roses are naturally embedded into crystal Quartz points. Come ON!!!!
Sage Goddess is nothing but a carny. Most of her “rare” stuff can easily be found online for a fraction of the price. Her 100% pure essential oils also tested as synthetic. For rocks that are legit and great prices, check out The Mineral Division on fb. You won’t be disappointed or screwed.
Regarding Sage Goddess’ Essential Oils…can you point me to where I can find more information on this? I have recently purchased and am using some of her perfume samples and was enjoying them but I would like to know if they are not essential oils, and use a gross (to me) carrier oil other than Vitamin E, Avocado, Coconut, or Jojoba. Thanks for the info.
Yes if you look up Sage Goddess Honeysuckle on Facebook you can see independent testing on just one of her oils that she listed as having Honeysuckle EO (which doesn’t exist). In addition the FDA made her list her oils as “possibly containing fragrance oils” after an investigation, and if you notice none of them are free of the disclaimer.
Is there a way for me to figure out if the watermelon tourmaline is fake from this shop. Here is the link. https://www.etsy.com/listing/557383028/rare-blueish-green-rubelite-pink-core?ref=related-2
I know this is way late, but I think this is real. A lot of times, smaller or “lower quality” stones will be used to make beads or tumbled stones. The energy should be just fine, and they’re often very beautiful. It usually just means that they have too many inclusions or imperfections to be considered gem grade, and so are less expensive than pieces without the inclusions.
Quick question: I have a few crystals that I believe may be opalite considering their iridescent, glass-like appearance. However, they have tree-like marks and matte bands in them almost like dendritic agate. Do you have any idea if they were made that way, or could they possibly be agate or natural opalite?
There are photos of Ajoite in Quartz matrix on the https://www.mindat.org/min-66.html
That site you linked too in your post. There is one on the front page and further in the link for ‘Quartz’ and Ajoite. So from these pictures I am led to believe that Ajoite does form in matrix???
Yes! It does. Thank you for sharing
WoW ???? why are people doing this , I suppose they think they are going to make the big bucks ???? thanks to yo HM in keep us up to date , with these new fakes coming into the Gem and minerals market . We are aware an can spread the word .
I have been searching for a golden healer quartz point to make a pendulum from and was bamboozled by a dealer in a rock and gem show when I showed it to someone I trust in the “rock trade” I was told I spent a pretty penny on tangerine quartz so sad and disillusioned..thank you for this informative blog on ajoite & papagoite and I hope my pink tourmaline is real????
I know this is way late, but tangerine quartz and golden healer quartz both get their color from iron oxides. The tangerine pieces are obviously more orange, and the iron is usually (always?) on the outside of the stone, where with golden healer it’s usually inside, but they are for all intents the same thing, just different shades. In your sellers case, it was probably just being slightly misinformed as opposed to trying to scam.
Thank you for clarifying this. This is great to know!
I just got my order from Sage Goddess and when i touches them i did not feel anything. I really feel like they are not real. It is sad. I spend 200€ plus import VAT to Sweden and feel so sad right now.
It is not about money I just feel really sad and fulled. Who to trust? eh…
My wife was given some crystals for Christmas just gone by her Dad. He was so proud of himself for getting them. The only trouble was that as soon as she opened the box, both of us could tell that they were fake. I asked him later where he got them and he said eBay – “got a great deal”he said.
I think the thing here was that even though he didn’t really know what he was looking at, when we looked at the site, they looked real and the description was pretty on par – obviously copied and pasted from elsewhere in hind site. My advice would be to stick to the reputable dealers and like most things – if the price is too good to be true, then it probably is…
Is this fake? It’s 36$ on eBay. Very rare green ajoite in Rock from Messina South Africa.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113604462739
Wow, you answered my question before I even asked (which I just found out after a google search LOL ????????). It was a question on your ten advanced stones blog post.
Thanks!
Feels like there’re a lot of very educated people here on crystals. Can anyone tell me if this is a fake? https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/listing/786209877/blue-apatite-galet-of-115-g-and-55-x-43?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=blue+apatite&ref=sr_gallery-5-28&organic_search_click=1&pro=1&frs=1
Lots of love
How about Spiritmagicka??? I just made a purchase from them and now I wonder if they are the real deal.
I just ordered from Spirit Magicka too…I’ve heard that they take at least three weeks for delivery. I’ll let you know when I get them.
Did you get your order from Spirit Maigcka ?
I ordered from Spirit Magika on April 23. It was shipped Canada post with tracking. Thinking sweet shipped in my own country shouldn’t take too long. I just checked and was shipped from China May 8. I’m having my doubts now being from China they are probably fake.
Did you guys get your Spirit Magicka crystals?!?
I’m waiting on Spirit Magicka crystals too! I’m in Canada and it’s been 2 months since I ordered.
Has anyone received their crystal from Spirit Magicka? I ordered mine last month, supposedly they shipped May 9, from a location about 1 hour away from my house. USPS have not received the package and when I contacted Spirit Magicka they are asking me to check with USPS. I asked Spirit Magicka if I can just go pick them up since it seems like they are about 1 hour away. They keep telling me they are in transit… Something doesn’t feel right!
I’m currently in “talks” with spirit magicka. I believe they are a scam. I bought a large selection of crystals to jump start my collection. Not realizing the potential for being bamboozeled. Customer service keeps blaming it on the carrier. My tracking info states it has never been received by the carrier. Customer service gives me the run around. I am devastated at the loss of so much money and zero stones to boot.
i also ordrted fro. them over 3 months ago.. only received part of my order and items were faulty. never received the rest of my order. they refused to refund so opened a claim through PayPal… still waiting. yes i do believe spirit magicka is a scam and their jewelry is nothing but cheap junk
Thank you Zack for the info. I was just about to order from them…
I also ordered from spirit magicka in late April a bulk order of various crystals and stones. Order was supposed to arrive no later than June 2nd. I’ve reached out to them each week since then and it seems to be an auto-generated answer that due to Covid, shipping times are slow etc. I just got my order today (july 13th) but the usps tracking info this entire time had no update whatsoever. Now after reading all this I am feeling like they are not real… :_( I suppose the only way is to track down a gemologist..?
I just recently bought a small piece of ajoite in quartz and I love it SO much! I am very thankful for this blog because I was able to confirm that I do have genuine ajoite. Thank you so much!
Regarding KamiCrystals, I have been working with a multitude of crystals so far and his are by far the strongest ones I came across until now. If you cannot feel their energy, that just means that your higher senses need to be developed much more (no offense; just empty your mind and try tuning into the picture without prejudice or the such), his work is excellent (though they cost far too much, on that I agree – but are worth the money) and I hope for people to believe in his abilities. He is a wonderful being and should be acknowledged for his amazing work!
With all respect,
And wishing for people to believe in KamiCrystals,
André
Thank you so much for the reviews on Spiritmagicka! I was just about to get something from them as they were having a sale. 🙁
I LOVe spirit magicka.. I’ve ordered many times.. it takes forever because it’s from China … they are legit stones .. I’ve purchased 4 large sets.. one got lost in the mail but they shippped another and everything else always perfect..
Omg I just ordered a huge set from spiritual magicka and now I feel like it’s a scam reading this :((
I wished I read your blog before buying from unscrupulous sellers on platforms like Shopee Singapore!
I was sold an A jade bangle by a seller called YPXZB888.SG and was told that it was 100% authentic and came with a promise that i would get 10,000 times the value back if it was fake!
Got the items, and it was indeed fake!
Expert gem labs have also determined it to be due treated and polymer filled!
And now that rogue seller YPXZB888.SG blocks me on the platform and refused to refund me any money for a fake bangle!
Hello would you know if Turix is legit?
Appreciating the time and effort you put into your blog and detailed information you provide.
It’s great to come across a blog every once in a while that
isn’t the same unwanted rehashed material. Excellent read!
I’ve bookmarked your site and I’m adding your RSS feeds to my Google account.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Fake anything pisses me off. Especially people!
Ive been that way since I was a baby my Mom has told me (laughing) many times. She just came through in a mediumship reading she said “Truth is in the eye of the beholder “.
Namaskar
I wanted to know how Innervisioncrystals is for having real lemurian seed crystals
Omg get a load of this!
https://www.crystalarium.com/products/ajoite-in-quartz-26-3-mm-24-73-carats-natural-crystal-polished-triangular-cabochon
Talk about trying to rip people off, wow.
I just received my order from Sage Goddess and was not feeling the vibes of the crystals. I had another order ready in my cart and decided to do some research first before ordering again. This comment section has only proven my suspicions that I’ve just been sold fakes from AliExpress and that I will not be receiving a refund anytime soon.
I want to just forget about it and try and make the most of the “crystals” that I bought, but now I don’t know who to trust when it comes to buying crystals online (buying from physical stores is not an option where I live).
Does anyone know of any authentic crystal stores that ship to Europe?
Sage Goddess was terrible to me too! The worst part was customer service because they just didn’t care or stand behind their order. I was a collector but Sage Goddess and other failed crystal orders motivated me to start my own crystal shop so that I can make sure the things I sell are legit. I would love to spoil you!!! http://www.claimyourvibe.com
This is not true. Ajoite does come in formations other than a quartz point phantom. You just have to look at the Mindat.org site. Please update this article.
I think sage goddess needs to recalibrate her chakras. They are out of wack. Try using real citrine and a buffer heart chakra done
Bigger heart chakra stone lol sorry.
I have raw ajoite from messina on my website for sale right now. You’re correct Messina 5th shaft mine was dynamited in the 90s but recently locals have been digging through the old waste dumps and now I acquired it. Some of it even contains malachite veins. It’s so pretty you have to see it: https://claimyourvibe.com/?s=ajoite&post_type=product
I am a former student and graduate of Sage Goddess programs and have never received any fake products and I always received my orders on time. One time my crystals were stolen and she gave me store credit for the amount I’ve paid. That was before Athena resigned as CEO. Idk what her ex is doing to the company now. I use ATX Crystals now. My friend Tina owns the company she was also a student and I met her at SG. She’s very high quality and a beautiful soul.